Hi Everyone,
I happened to read this post ..And his life should become extinct on the blog Soul in Exile. As I have maintained right from the start, I am not here to decide who is innocent and who is guilty - for the picture when it comes to Kashmir is always hazy. So it is better to just listen to what the other person says and then make your conclusions - whether or not they are accepted by the masses. In the comments section of my previous post I had referred to this link and for those who want to have a complete understanding of what we are discussing here, I request them to first go through the article.
Our friend Soul in Exile has made some observations and I am sure it doesn’t harm anyone if we go through his post. Now having done that, I have put in my comments which I am reproducing here - for fear of being censored at the place they are intended for.
Soul in Exile,
As I had promised I am responding to your post and I will try to be as concise as possible to avoid boring you with un-necessary things… things that you must be aware of and pleading ignorance. However, I must admit that your post (a lengthy one indeed) doesn’t make my job simpler - for you have jumped from one issue to another to third and then to fourth. I wish you had stuck to one issue. However, I will try my level best to put my thoughts here. Mind you, I am not defending Afzal Guru here. My problem is because you have a problem with someone who attempts to put the true picture in front of the public and then let the public decide.
Calls Arundhati Roy a pseudo-secular
1. You call Arundhati Roy a pseudo-secular and I cannot help but be reminded of the way a right-wing party in India chooses to call all those who raise any kind of voice for the minorities. Anyways arguing against your such perception -for you won’t be convinced - will be a futile exercise.
I must thank you for I have learnt that one who has a way-with-words will make us believe every non-sense in this world. You surely deserve an award for this new theory. Why don’t you try for some kinda Nobel or similar award.
Now lets come to the observations and counter-arguments made by you.
Ridicules Arundhati for saying Afzal Guru is innocent – because SAR Geelani was acquitted by the Indian ……
2. You have mentioned that Arundhati Roy tries to say “Courts be damned” and what not. I wish you had read the article without any bias and you would have understood what she meant. Hard as it may sound, but I failed to find a single sentence in her write-up which claimed that Afzal is totally innocent. She has merely put the pieces together, and there in what has emerged are glaring loopholes. Well, why would you talk about those loopholes - that would only make you case even more weaker. Just that one innocent professor was not convicted doesn’t mean whosoever else is tried has to be guilty. It was only due to the unrelented pressure by NGOs, reputed lawyers and thinkers, his students that today SAR Geelani is a free man.
Ridicules Arundhati Roy for mentioning Afzal Guru’s trial is totally based on all false evidence and there is nothing true in the case. …
3. What Arundhati Roy should or should not have done is none of our choices. I don’t think Ms. Roy wants people like you to believe anything - as you won’t believe anyway. She is a booker prize winner not a publicity hungry politician out to hoodwink you and earn votes (read money). Some of you have taken this famous saying to heart “Never believe what is obvious”. It is possible that Arundhati too might have had similar views as yours but now after researching the case she has changed her opinion. Let her say what she wants to - but the way you are frustrated at this clearly indicates your nervousness.
Is not impressed when A. Roy says Afzal Guru was victimized by the then government so as to be able to find premise for launching a war on Pakistan. Which war? ….
4. Why don’t you ask the big honchos of your favourite party which was in power. Operation Parakram and what not was launched at their behest. And I cannot stop laughing when you say that A. Roy has just weaved a plot for another novel and yet is so naive to discuss it in a weekly. Hey my suggestion, why don’t you take the cue (for you also have a way-with-words) and come out with a bestseller. And by the way, I never knew A. Roy is a Christian.
Madame Roy also makes a reference to her favorite Gujarat riots here – for no evident reason.
5.It is really sick to find someone refer to a pogrom as “favourite” as if one were talking about some daily soap. I hope you understood what pogrom is (not a program on your favourite channel). What Gujarat riots were and what Godhra riots were, let that be for another post .. some other time. Do you want us to believe no-one was killed in Narodiya-Patiya, Best-Bakery case is a myth, A pregnant woman did not have her womb split and her foetus burnt in front of eyes, In Vadodra no one was inside that Sumo around which barbed wire was wound before setting it on fire… I can go and on.. but as I said some other post. And when has a best selling author needed a riot and minorities support to boost her career. By the way what is the percentage of Muslims who read her… I am sure it wont be even a percent.
Says that as per Ms Roy, the terrorism in Kashmir is due to the para-military forces in the valley …
6.I found this to be the most absurd argument from your side. You are stretching her views too far and wide. What she is trying to emphasise on is the ‘terror” that is unleashed in the name of anti-militant activities by Special Operations Group or STF or SOG. But you were lucky enough to escape them so you won’t know how good (or bad) they are. So it would help if you trust ordinary Kashmiris views about them (Oh no you wont do that either.. for you think we all are terrorists).
Says that Ms. Roy has empathy for the enraged people of Kashmir, for the war-torn zone that they are living in and the pain related to it. …
7. Pain of our own making. Yes Kashmiris (read Muslims) are responsible for everything bad in this country be it Babri Masjid demolition, Mumbai riots in 93, Bhagalpur riots, Gujarat riots. So we deserve to die and we are dying. And yes, the conflict in Kashmir is our own creation - Indira Gandhi, Farooq Abdullah, Mufti Syed and yes His Highness Jagmohan had no hand in anything that has happened till now. Now whether A. Roy had condemned Mumbai blasts or Delhi Diwali blasts hardly matters for it is a different case we are discussing.
There was a media orgy forcing the judiciary and the system to prosecute someone – Afzal becoming the victim.
8. When a confession is obtained on Live TV first and only later proper procedures are followed - what other conclusion do you come to… Simply that the channel in addition to boosting their TRP wants to be knows as the channel on which “Afzal confessed”.. Pretty smart but gross. And do I need to tell you what relentless media pressure can force the judiciary to do… No you’re well aware.
Death Sentence should be abolished as it is not a civil form of punishment…
Now you are jumping to so many issues together and I don’t think my comment needs to tackle all of them issues together. Well you talk of the murder of Priyadarshini Mattoo, despite being from the other side of divide I have always wished for the punishment to guilty - whether the victim is a Muslim or a Pandit. How strongly each one of us feels about this case, have you ever wondered why? The reason is it was only possible due to the pressure maintained by the media esp. 24X7 news channels that today Santosh Singh has been convicted. Some years ago no one knew Priyadarshini and no one knew Santosh Singh’s crime either. But tomorrow if anyone stands for him, freedom of expression gives him/her the right to say what he/she wants and I don’t think we need a certificate to be issued whether the person is qualified to defend anyone.
And yeah… Vinayak, to be honest,… in relative terms I do think Afzal got a raw deal… Afterall, if Bitta Karate…
I am really amazed that even after nearly two decades whenever we talk of atrocities on Kashmiri Pandits by militants the only name that crops up is of Bitta Karate (incidentally in jail for 16 years till now). An excerpt from a blog I recently visited may be some food for thought for you…
“However, at the same point of time I have no hesitation in saying that while there are Bitta Karates on one end of the spectrum, you wont have to do much to find their equal and opposite personality. That person may not have taken as many lives (or may be even more) but he too has killed an innocent human being somewhere in Gow Kadal, Hawal, Bijbehara; hurt the dignity of women in Chhanapora, Handwara so on and so forth.
Tragedy is while you can ascribe a face to a Bitta Karate terror you cannot do the same for the other gun. The reason we all are here is we acknowledge those tragedies and feel the pain that everyone has gone through”
Hope that helps you in having some objectivity in your posts in the future.
Juz A Kashmiri